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 Class Mission: The Shimabara Rebellion!, For Ripley, Hoshi, and Mika
Moby Dick
 Posted: Mar 26 2018, 08:06 PM
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As the students began to file in, they would find Naganori-sensei seated behind the teacher's desk, reading a book. A calm and cultured man, he'd taken time to travel around the world and familiarize himself with the cultures and histories of other people. This would come into play during today's class. For while it wasn't a necessity to have seen the world as he had to teach today's topic, it helped to see and appreciate the thing from the other's perspective. This was a normal class, but in history, nothing was just as straightforward as believed. The further you delve into its background, the more stories you can see.

Once everyone was seated, he bookmarked his page and closed the book, standing up to face them with a smile. It was always good to see such people, eager to learn and expand their horizons. So, with that, class would begin.

"Good afternoon, everyone. Today, we will be exploring the Shimabara Rebellion, a conflict dating from the late 1637 to the early 1638, a span of half a year...and yet it can trace its origins to a key point dating further back. Can anybody tell me when that was, and what that cause might be?"

He waited patiently to see if anyone knew where this was going, right off.

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 Posted: Mar 27 2018, 03:05 AM
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The question left Mika in thought while trying to recover what history she was taught at home. But to go further back into the topic of the rebellion wasn't something she prepared for. Mika, again, took the class on a whim as one of the least likely of places to find her brother and putting distance between them. It was a strange way to escape his empty hearted attempts at forgiveness but the classes tend to provide a bit of culture in the exchange.

When she took her seat and looked at the well read professor, Mika kept her hands in her lap without an answer. She came here to learn about this rebellion and the Christians that took part in it. If basing off that as an upraising of mistreatment then there was but a handful. Whatever the teacher was directly referring to was at a loss to her. What else was there to know or expect? Her eyes then slid to see if the other students knew or cared to give an answer. It would soon be apparent that she knew nobody in the room. A small smile of this assurance of her brother's absence made her relax in her chair and ready to soak up what information would pass around.

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 Posted: Mar 27 2018, 04:33 AM
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Hoshi had taken a seat in the middle and had her materials on the desk as she awaited the class to start. When Naganori-sensei finally started the class, she snapped to attention, hanging on every word. She didn't recognize anyone else, that meant she might not have to worry so much about expectations.

Hoshi knew that there was famine and brutal mistreatment that led up to the rebellion, but a specific date? She thought hard and raised her hand, "it when the Arima clan was replaced by the Matsukura clan as the leaders of Shimabara" She answered with her notebook holding it up so she wouldn't have to speak loudly.

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[OOC: I apologize for the delay in this, and I wish Shoy good luck and godspeed on whatever it is that she faces. Let us continue...]

The teacher waited for a moment to see what answers they would bring, but it seemed that - for this question - the students didn't want to hazard a guess. Then, one of them did speak up with an answer. It was understandable if they didn't want to test the waters on this one, since it would be felt that simply answering 'Christianity' would be far too inadequate a response. In context, it could even be said not to be so much as the cause, but the engine upon which that cause traveled. Naganori nodded at Hoshi after she had finished.

"Indeed. Although religion is at the center of this rebellion, it was when control of the area changed hands that could be seen as the trigger event. The Arima Clan was sympathetic - nay, encouraged by it - ever since missionaries landed in Shimabara previously. When Matsukura Shigemasa replaced Arima Harunobu as its lord, many of the people were Christian, themselves."

And with a leader who had not a sympathetic ear for this new way of thinking, this outside religion, you can imagine how much of a shock and a betrayal it would feel to those people, by that act alone. When you lose a noble or a lord who heard your voice and heeded your words, only to be replaced by one who would most certainly not...you truly understand just how helpless you are. To be viewed as different and to not have a voice in the court can be viewed as an eyesore at least, a traitor at worst, and that was only the beginning.

"Matsukura Shigemasa was a rather ambitious man. What might've been some of the plans he had in mind to elevate himself within the Shogunate?"

Plenty. Some men will go to any length for power and influence.

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“Wouldn’t the standard acquisition of land and bribes with local nobles be the usual method? Marrying into influential families is another.” Mika suggested with just the basic of plans to get ahead from a small beginning. These were also near standard practice that the other options would be to kill the competition but it didn’t sound like this lecture had a bloody road to power. Scandal only worked so far anyway and may not have lasted long enough for the rebellion.

She then folded her hands to try piecing more of the events together but not enough was given and neither was the information all there. Was this a lecture on the rebellion or just some review course than introduction? Whatever the case, if it was the later, she didn’t plan on providing her own thoughts anymore.

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Hoshi was a bit fuzzy on the details of Matsukura's rise to power, but what her classmate had said seemed like the right answer. Hoshi would add a few more though, "intrigue, disgracing rivals and using them against each other. Done right, no one would've known what he was up to until it was too late."

Obviously, something good had gone wrong with the ambitious plan Masukura had. Completely ignoring your people being high on that list. Josh started writing how she would have acted if she had been the new feudal Lord of Shimabara.

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 Posted: May 14 2018, 04:09 AM
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These questions were more-or-less aligned to allow one to give their perspective on the way things work, more than simply if it were correct or not. The trouble with history was that only in the areas where the facts were disputed was any of it open to actual interpretation. Nevertheless, you do what you can to open discussion. Naganori nodded to the answers given.

"All of these are proven effective means of gaining power in the past."

And still yet, sometimes, in the present, as well.

"With a well-placed word or promise of wealth, any noble would want to be on your side, so long as he does not suffer, should your good name come to blows. Then again, with such a person's support, it would be difficult to. And yet, with the other hand, you could threaten to besmirch another's good name and leave them bitter, but obedient, to your cause. Acquiring land - through force or marriage - would also be possible, and in this case, applicable."

Here, he regarded Mika, as she most-certainly knew the ways of nobles.

"It was his desire to invade Luzon, in the Philipines, and he had also immersed himself in several construction projects. This including the building and expansion of Edo Castle, and to use materials from his own castle to produce the Shimabara Castle, following the Ikkoku-ichijo - one castle per province - policy."

He returned his eyes to the class as a whole, his gaze more serious than they had been a moment ago.

"Put your minds into that of the average person of Shimabara. As a Christian, you were part of a new faith, a new way of thinking and worshipping, but without the Arima Clan, your voice - your right to speak your religion and practice it - is gone. The new Lord denounces it and punishes it severely...by boiling Christians. And this is only for your beliefs. As a citizen of his province, to fund the projects that will give him power in the Shogunate, you are also to pay heavier taxes. Farmers are to give more tribute, more than they can afford to give. Artisans and laborers will have to work harder and produce for less pay. And if you do not, your loved ones will be plunged into ice water."

This was described as shockingly brutal by even other anti-Catholics at the time, and would be by today's standards, as well. Naganori paused for a moment, and then spoke once more.

"The life you lived is no more, and the life you have now is unbearable, even if you are not a Christian. You have no voice, no rights, and very little to work with...or to lose. And with that in mind, I open the floor to the discussion of rebellion. How would you proceed? How would you even begin?"

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Mika folded her hands together and thought over the process of the issues. Thanks to the efforts of a politically ambitious person who is welcome to a war effort to take a territory in the islands further south of the country while also well verse into other building projects to form a labor debt of these buildings not likely to happen if not for their generous contributions.

Having that said, this places the people far below a point of interest when there were buildings to be made. The buildings are important although at the cost of the people being little more so than dirt then ants molded from that dirt when requiring a construction done. Not everyone can and would be able to perform these tasks so the divide is those to force into work and those that are just utterly useless. Mika came to the conclusion that these people wanted none of that but lacked a sense of being considered as people.

"This area is a small area of followers but of people being treated to their limits. They are within their lord's lands but the matter seems to lack supporters outside of his province," Mika shrugged. "If lacking support, the current lord seems too engrossed into the building plans to not notice supplies being used elsewhere to be amassed. The strain on the people should may follow up the chain of command. People have to be guarded so even guards
may be under the stress for one or two to feel inclined to assist under the table."

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Hoshi ran her fingers through her hair as Mika-sama contributed more before writing again and holding up her notepad, "It didn't help matters any that he was targeting a specific religion. Some of the most fanatical groups fight in the name of God or whomever their deity is." She stopped to write more, "Matsukura compounded his mistake with his brutality as well as performing these acts in a predominantly Christian area. In hindsight, he was practically begging for this to happen."

She set her pad down when an idea hit her, "He may have been trying to achieve this though. The end result of the rebellion was Christianity being driven underground as well as strengthening the isolationist policies." Maybe the man wasn't as much of a fool as Hoshi had originally thought.

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Very interesting.

He had proposed that they come up with plans for rebellion, to think up the ways in which Shimabara would act, given the situation if they themselves had some say in the matter, to direct events, you might say. Naganori honestly expected some sort of tactical plans to be set out, such as how they might initiate something in battle, rather than how it actually turned out. However, what Mika and Hoshi came up with was very different.

"So, to understand you correctly... Because the people of Shimabara had little-to-no outside support and very little hope of winning in open warfare, you - Mika - believe the Rebellion should have been from within, through misappropriation and quiet defiance, sabotaging the entirety of Matsukura's designs. From there, perhaps overt action would only be taken when necessary or when forced to by discovery, I presume."

And after givine what he believed to be the summary of Mika's thoughts, he turned to Hoshi, who had a very different take from the whole affair.

"And, unless I am mistaken, you - Hoshi - are saying that all of this was deliberate, that Matsukura instigated this entire ordeal deliberately to achieve the effect that came down the lines. Thus, by creating much distress in the Christian community, he forces their hands in a most brutal fashion - to desperately fight back in an effort to convert the nation and make it right for their people again - he makes it easier to crush the Christian movement, because he can have them all killed freely and without a cost to his reputation."

The teacher nodded at these answers with a smile. They were unexpected and insightful, a good sign, to be sure.

"Well, I suspect that had you two been there, things might have turned out very differently. If enough belief in an underhanded plot were garnered, they might've turned to Mika's plan to slowly undermine Matsukura's rule from within. Truly, the beginnings of it were there, as numerous samurai had met in secret to move against the cruel Lord, but as it happens, they reacted as samurai did in those times, and began with assassinations. Because notification of suuch things reached outside the province, Matsukura gained outside support to begin subduing the problem."

And now, we move on to the next bit. This time, he wanted a real assessment of the difficulties the people of Shimabara were faced with in the battle scenarios.

"It is truly unfortunate, but we cannot always control what people think, feel, and do. You have a plan which - while it forces your comrades to grit their teeth and bear with the trials coming ahead while you support them in secret - will be beneficial in the long run, but somebody finally says they can stand it no longer. Assassinations begin. They are secret enough so as not to know the true assailant, but the plan will be compromised. Once death is on the board, you must abide the inevitable following of more death in reprisal. The war has begun. You have no choice now. What will you do? Is there any hope of victory at all, even a slim hope for the people?"

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Well this got vexing. The impatience of the people made Mika look crossed with them even if they weren't her citizens nor people to rule other. Typically the ruthless way is the kill the lord. Simple and crude as it may be. She sighed and shook her head as the professor explained why the second plan from the student near by would have failed too. The people were just doomed to die so much if they even pray to their own god to have sanctuary. Everyone is just playing into ruling lord's hands too well.

"Hope? It's an utter mess," Mika shook her head at the poor history. The people are dead by now so it didn't matter too much anymore. Old history now and all that. "Making this much noise now would attract attention. Someone would may see all this and to take advantage of this mess as the people are revolting, samurai are too busy murdering each other, and the lordship of the era will gladly let them die. Doesn't show much competence in the lordship himself."

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Hoshi was disgusted by her classmate's pessimism, "Where there's life, there's hope. Even if it's a one in ten billion chance, there's still a chance. The peasants probably would've been better off with using passive aggressive methods. Rather than outright rebellion, they could've withheld their work, make life difficult for their Lord until things were in their favor for action. A person's beliefs are a core part of who they are and the Christians had every right to fight for that simple aspect." She took a deep breath, "Regardless of how messy it may seem to us with hindsight, they chose the course of action that made the most sense at the time. And now Matsukura is remembered as a man who was ultimately a failure. Poisoned by his shogun for the way he treated his people." She reached into her bag and pulled out a bible, "The Christian God claims that vengeance against evil is his to claim. Romans 12:19 comes to mind right away. Matsukura acted with evil intent and he was struck down for it. Some would argue that the Christian peasants lost, but I believe that in the end, they won. Look at our world today. People of various religious beliefs that in the past were believed to be antithetical to each other are peacefully living side by side. Matsukura ultimately lost."

Hoshi took a sip of water for her aching throat and shrank back in her seat when she realized that she had given what amounted to a speech for her.

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To be fair, Mika's pessimism was not exactly wrong. The short-sighted actions of samurai killing men sent fear racing up and down the spines of those in charge, and they called for help. And once you make it a big public affair, it becomes harder and harder a thing to manage. Rebellion can take a number of forms, but generally one of the main differences is whether it's quiet or loud. And most agreeably, a quiet riot was preferred in this case, even though that is not what happened.

Naganori listened to what the two girls said, then interjected.

"You both understand the two sides of this harsh event. Mika, in the short-term, your words are merit, as patience and guile would have had more a chance to win out in the end. With that patience exhausted, though, that changed everything. Human suffering can only be endured for so long, and men of anger do act hastily for a righteous cause. However..."

He gestured to Hoshi now.

"...you must understand how people of great faith will act when under pressure. Not just foolishly, but with conviction and indeed hope. If your family was suffering cruelly, unjustly, you might gladly give your life if you believed there was some way to save them. Faith is like that, sometimes. You believe and you hope beyond hope that you can make a difference, that you sacrifice to a better end, and that in your life's end that you will be in a better place. When human beings believe they have nothing to lose but the pain in their hearts, their minds, and their bodies...they will rush forth, even if it seems suicidal to do so, especially if they believe they can do something good in the process."

Naganori shook his head now.

"I apologize for bringing so much religious faith into it, but it is indeed at the heart of the matter. The Christian faith holds such hope and self-sacrifice in the most high regard. Japan was not converted by Shimabara, but to say that it was touched by it would not be so inaccurate."

Today, there was still something of a divide, but it was not nearly as much as the yesteryear. Christianity existed, and was accepted or at least tolerated - within Japanese borders today. Wasn't that a kind of victory, in the long run?

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